Tuesday, July 22, 2008

More from Maliki

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-obama-iraq-sly_22jul22,0,519982.story

Maliki told Obama he hopes the troops will go home "by the end of 2010," according to Maliki's spokesman, Ali al-Dabbagh, marking the first time the Iraqi government has specified a time limit on the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq.
I'm not entirely sure how one can spin the fact that Maliki's own spokesman is who said this.

But a statement issued by Obama's congressional delegation, including Sens. Jack Reed (D-R.I.) and Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.)..."Iraqis want an aspirational timeline, with a clear date, for the redeployment of American combat forces," the statement said. "Prime Minister Maliki told us that while the Iraqi people deeply appreciate the sacrifices of American soldiers, they do not want an open-ended presence of U.S. combat forces."
This quote and other things we've heard from Prime Minister Maliki frankly speak for themselves.

Dabbagh cautioned, however, that any timetable should be flexible enough to accommodate changing conditions, "to ensure that we won't be attacked by any enemy inside or outside Iraq."
It is important to remember that Obama has said he'd be open to this, specifically in saying that he would leave enough troops behind to protect our non-military personnel, train Iraqi forces, and conduct counter-terrorism. He has always said that if it was obvious Iraq was being invaded or Al-Qaeda was growing he would re-deploy to stop it. Sen. McCain has been far more specific in saying that it would be conditions that would dictate when our troops are drawn down and only conditions. Sen. Obama's plan is more of a stance that forces the issue and Sen. McCain's policy is a stance of being at the pace it happens to go. Both men, as said previously, share in the ultimate goal.

However, some Iraqi officials have said they may scale back the talks and reach only a temporary arrangement with the Bush administration, leaving it up to the next president to negotiate a permanent deal with Iraq. If Obama is elected, the Iraqis will be able to negotiate a deal that fits their goal of seeing the troops gone by the end of 2010.
Now two things about this wording: 1) McCain has never said he'd go against what the Iraqi's want. He has always said that if the Iraqi's want us out we'll leave. The idea that Sen. John McCain wouldn't agree to Iraq's wish that we have all of our troops gone by the end of 2010 is disingenuous. 2) Iraq is clearly not happy with President Bush's demands. This is a shrewd political move by Maliki. We're already seeing some public concessions and I'm sure some non-public concessions as well from our administration. Apparently they still aren't enough which calls into question just what President Bush could be asking for. One huge issue seems to be the demand that our troops and citizens be immune to Iraqi laws. Frankly, it isn't likely that President Bush allows this kind of hit to his legacy, he'll do what it takes to get an agreement done no matter what.

"I don't think that there are deep concerns about the notion of a pullout per se," Obama told ABC News in an interview. "There are deep concerns about, from their perspective, of a timetable that doesn't take into account what they anticipate might be some sort of change in conditions."
The nuance (some would say spin) we'll most likely hear from Obama once he's back will be something along the lines of "my ultimate goal will still be 16 months but if it became obvious more troops were needed or withdrawal needed to be halted I'd do so in order not to lose the gains that have been made". Very similar to things Obama has said in the past. Unfortunately, a great deal of people seem to be hearing only what they want to when Obama speaks.

2 comments:

Anonymous,  July 23, 2008 at 10:22 AM  

Hi Sean--This is your "Midwest Connection"--and please remember that Obama has no business even being over in Iraq or Afghanistan talking to heads of state-- due to the fact that he is not our President. The only reason he and his entourage are safe enough to travel in the middle east is due to President Bush's surge plan--which, as you sited, he was totally against. I just wish Obama would say one positive thing regarding America and our troops--such negativity will not work for America's future. . .

Sean July 23, 2008 at 12:41 PM  

Hi "Midwest Connection" - Sen. McCain has been to Iraq and Afghanistan many times. He's talked with Prime Minister Maliki as well as Gen. Petreus and the President of Afghanistan numerous times. Many Senators make a trip at least once a year. It is partly true that he was able to go because of the surge but not entirely. Sen. McCain himself was going to Iraq well before the surge. Certainly more safe and easier to get around because of the surge is a bit more accurate.
I would point out that although on a technical level he's right that the goal of all 18 political benchmarks weren't met, he's misleading/being disingenuous in acting as if political reconciliation hasn't happened significantly enough. He is right, and this isn't anything Sen. McCain or even Pres. Bush hasn't also said, that more reconciliation is needed.
Once it became obvious that the surge had reduced violence he has praised the troop’s courage and the job they've done but then made sure to solely criticize the political side of things.
Obama has acted and spoke a bit too much like he is already President and he has given too many specifics that were said to him in private which is unsettling.

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